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take a look. >> justice for trayvon! justice for trayvon! justice for trayvon! >> those protesters are shouting "justice for trayvon." those who gathered did remain peaceful. no arrests were made, but "the miami herald" reported that at least one verbal fight broke out between protesters, a man and a woman arguing over the role of race in the trial. >> keep an eye that, but also, another stunning story happening overnight, the tragic death of actor cory monteith. the canadian native who became famous playing finn hudson on the hit tv show "glee" was found in a vancouver hotel room saturday. monteith's body was found by hotel staff yesterday after he missed his check-out time. nick valencia is in atlanta monitoring all of this. and it's truly a tragic story, nick. he's so young. what's the latest you're hearing? >> good morning, kate. sudden and tragic. the cause of death is not immediately known, but police have ruled out foul play. an autopsy is set for monday. just to remind our viewers, cory monteith skyrocketed to fame as part of the hit tv show "glee." he p
take a look. >> justice for trayvon! justice for trayvon! justice for trayvon! >> those protesters are shouting "justice for trayvon." those who gathered did remain peaceful. no arrests were made, but "the miami herald" reported that at least one verbal fight broke out between protesters, a man and a woman arguing over the role of race in the trial. >> keep an eye that, but also, another stunning story happening overnight, the tragic death of actor cory...
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>> trayvon. >> justice. >> outside the courthouse in sanford today, demonstrators were divided. >> george, guilty. >> george, guilty. >> like so many americans are about whether george zimmerman took the law into his own hands. >> inside this courtroom, zimmerman's future was still uncertain and will be until a jury of six women agree on a verdict. >> prosecutor john guy wanted them to see zimmerman as a murderer with hate in his heart. >> this case is not about standing your ground, it is about staying in your car like he was taught to do. >> the defense lawyer mark o'mara argued zimmerman's choice was kill or be killed. >> what other options did he have? none. >> tracy martin and sybrina fulton the dead teen's parents watched every day of testimony. >> martin talked to us the night before the trial began. >> the end is not what you want, what would the message be to you? >> we know that we did everything we could do to get the outcome that we wanted, but if it does gone our way we will still continue to be a voice for trayvon. >> reporter: the jury's request to clarify the manslaughter
>> trayvon. >> justice. >> outside the courthouse in sanford today, demonstrators were divided. >> george, guilty. >> george, guilty. >> like so many americans are about whether george zimmerman took the law into his own hands. >> inside this courtroom, zimmerman's future was still uncertain and will be until a jury of six women agree on a verdict. >> prosecutor john guy wanted them to see zimmerman as a murderer with hate in his heart. >>...
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so they are very committed to trayvon's leg gas i. and trayvon's legacy means so much to this country, in that hopefully he has made america more aware that all people are important, but also too that we is to be more mindful as to how we treat one another, how we profile one another, how we evoke our judicial process when things occur. all of those things will be part of trayvon's legacy. >> i'm interested, first of all, in whether moving forward includes perhaps a civil suit. >> well, we don't talk about that much publicly on our side of things. when we make those type of decisions, we don't sue insolvent people. we sue people -- it's an informed decision. so we don't -- that wouldn't be a very public situation when that decision is made, how we handle it, and we'll confer with our clients. we'll make that decision. right now, though, i think this verdict is so fresh, we don't have that second conversation not yet. i think right now it's really an important time for the country and the martin family to think about how we treat racia
so they are very committed to trayvon's leg gas i. and trayvon's legacy means so much to this country, in that hopefully he has made america more aware that all people are important, but also too that we is to be more mindful as to how we treat one another, how we profile one another, how we evoke our judicial process when things occur. all of those things will be part of trayvon's legacy. >> i'm interested, first of all, in whether moving forward includes perhaps a civil suit. >>...
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what does this do in light of that to trayvon martin? >> they weren't almost character witnesses, they were character witnesses. we sat there and listened to the vietnam veteran, make us relive the vietnam war in court the other day. and all he did and used that to bolster the situation. we've heard all type of witnesses that have bolstered the character. so i think your insinuation that it was a somewhat character -- no, it was. i think you're right on point. and most people saw it as that. >> reporter: so wolf, right now, we just watch and wait to see what happens with this particular ruling. as you mentioned, the judge wants to get this process moving. she's got a jury waiting to hear more testimony. the defense wants to make their case over the next several days, so depending upon what happens with this ruling, we'll see if new evidence will be dpladmitteo the case. >> they've been discussing this since 8:30 a.m. eastern, 90 minutes or so. the judge clearly frustrated it was taking so long. she wants those jurors back in the courtroo
what does this do in light of that to trayvon martin? >> they weren't almost character witnesses, they were character witnesses. we sat there and listened to the vietnam veteran, make us relive the vietnam war in court the other day. and all he did and used that to bolster the situation. we've heard all type of witnesses that have bolstered the character. so i think your insinuation that it was a somewhat character -- no, it was. i think you're right on point. and most people saw it as...
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you would never even hear about trayvon martin. it would not have this kind of coverage. this kind of stuff is going black on black violence and minority on minority violence every day. so, of course, it is a national story simply because of race. to your point burden of proof. burden of proof is on the state to prove that mr. zimmerman is guilty of murder beyond a reasonable doubt. what the media has done is sort of flip that and indicted mr. zimmerman. >> we have been here before with a lot of other trials. it is arage i did no matter how you cut it. what's the media's responsibility and have they fulfilled that properly? >> well -- >> go ahead. >> i'm going to associate myself with jack's comments in the huffington post when hay said basically enough. this is -- too much. it is just too much. we have -- as you pointed out, a few things going on in the world and that largest protests in human history in egypt our president having come back from africa and -- nelson mandela on death's door. 19 pyre fighters die in a horrible blaze
you would never even hear about trayvon martin. it would not have this kind of coverage. this kind of stuff is going black on black violence and minority on minority violence every day. so, of course, it is a national story simply because of race. to your point burden of proof. burden of proof is on the state to prove that mr. zimmerman is guilty of murder beyond a reasonable doubt. what the media has done is sort of flip that and indicted mr. zimmerman. >> we have been here before with a...
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he murdered trayvon martin. >> no, he killed trayvon martin. >> yes. >> whether he murdered him is up to the jury to decide from a legal perspective. >> justification. i want to take, move this conversation and shrink it a little bit back to those jurors in that jury room. that's where before we speculate about anything else, the very next thing that will happen is they'll come back at some point and tell us. >> i want to come back to this at the end of program. how people are looking toward this verdict. what the bated breath feels like. legal analyst lisa green. msnbc contributor james peterson. attorney seema iyer. thank you so much. >> thanks, chris. >> there will be continuing live coverage of the zim eman trial on msnbc. >>> where in the world is nsa leaker edward snowden? we have an answer tonight. stay with us. that do ride the bus. and now that the busses are running on natural gas, they don't throw out as much pollution to the earth. so i feel good. i feel like i'm doing my part to help out the environment. vietnam in 1972. [ all ] fort benning, georgia in 1999. [ male annou
he murdered trayvon martin. >> no, he killed trayvon martin. >> yes. >> whether he murdered him is up to the jury to decide from a legal perspective. >> justification. i want to take, move this conversation and shrink it a little bit back to those jurors in that jury room. that's where before we speculate about anything else, the very next thing that will happen is they'll come back at some point and tell us. >> i want to come back to this at the end of program....
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the charge is that zimmerman murdered trayvon martin. second degree. >> second degree and manslaughter, correct. >> bill: certainly it is possible in a fracas, you are fighting, you are fighting, and there is no doubt that zimmerman had wounds and trayvon martin had wounds. you are fighting. that motion happens, that can put someone on top rather than on bottom. that doesn't mean a murder didn't happen, does it, wiehl it? >> doesn't necessarily. the jury can fight back and forth about. this remember, the key issue here is self-defense. we know that zimmerman killed martin. that's -- we know that was he acting in self-defense? it really bolsters his case if he is say and others his voice on the 911 call. >> bill: other witnesses saying it was. >> forensic experts is beyond friends and all of that. >> bill: that's what i mean. this forensic expert then becomes what they call the end all. not the be all because there is a lot of other things but the end all. he comes in and you say he has 40 years of experience. his credibility is very stro
the charge is that zimmerman murdered trayvon martin. second degree. >> second degree and manslaughter, correct. >> bill: certainly it is possible in a fracas, you are fighting, you are fighting, and there is no doubt that zimmerman had wounds and trayvon martin had wounds. you are fighting. that motion happens, that can put someone on top rather than on bottom. that doesn't mean a murder didn't happen, does it, wiehl it? >> doesn't necessarily. the jury can fight back and...
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on tuesday, jurors heard forensic evidence about the gunshot that killed trayvon martin. things got tense in court last night between lawyers and the judge. near the end of a 13-hour marathon session. >> -- physically able to keep up this pace much longer. it's 10:00 at night. we started this morning. we've had full days every day -- weekend depositions at night -- >> mark strassmann is watching those developments at the courthouse in sanford, florida. good morning. it got heated last night. >> reporter: the impact of that long night is clear in court today. they look tired. judge deborah nelson has made two rulings on evidence motions. both of those rulings, losses for zimmerman's defense. they will not be allowed to introduce a computer animation of the confrontation between martin and zimmerman. and they will be allowed to introduce text messages found on trayvon martin's cell phone. the defense could rest as soon as today. dr. vincent di maio, an expert on gunshot wounds, was called as a defense witness. in his analysis, when zimmerman pulled the trigger, the gun's mu
on tuesday, jurors heard forensic evidence about the gunshot that killed trayvon martin. things got tense in court last night between lawyers and the judge. near the end of a 13-hour marathon session. >> -- physically able to keep up this pace much longer. it's 10:00 at night. we started this morning. we've had full days every day -- weekend depositions at night -- >> mark strassmann is watching those developments at the courthouse in sanford, florida. good morning. it got heated...
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the death of trayvon martin was a tragedy. not just for his family, or for any one community, but for america. i know this case has elicited strong passions. and in the wake of the verdict, i know those passions may be running even higher, but we are a nation of laws, and the jury has spoken. i now ask america to recognize calm reflection on two parents who lost a son. we continue our live coverage from sanford, florida, what's next? zimmerman may not be done defending himself in court? now civil rights leaders are calling for new charges. >>> also ahead -- >> in my instance, because i am african-american. we never really get a fair trial. we don't feel like we get a fair trial. >> that was longtime sanford resident and business owner brenda hartsfield about 24 hours ago on our show. i'll check in with her and get her reaction to the verdict. we'll be right back. [ brent ] this guy's a pro, herbie. [ herbie ] there's no doubt about it brent, a real gate keeper. here's kevin, the new boyfriend. lamb to the slaughter. that's rig
the death of trayvon martin was a tragedy. not just for his family, or for any one community, but for america. i know this case has elicited strong passions. and in the wake of the verdict, i know those passions may be running even higher, but we are a nation of laws, and the jury has spoken. i now ask america to recognize calm reflection on two parents who lost a son. we continue our live coverage from sanford, florida, what's next? zimmerman may not be done defending himself in court? now...
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trayvon martin riding a horse. if he had shown the most recent up to date picture of the person george zimmerman was swout the graininess of the 7-eleven photo, it was of him in a pink shirt hugging his mom on her birthday and riding a horse. those were the most recent pictures. he never showed those photos and neither did the prosecution. >> no other explanation for george zimmerman looking out the window and concluding he was an a-hole and f-'ing punk. what at the say? he was walking in the rain. really? really? you're calling the police because someone is walking slowly in the rain? does that have any credibility? could anyone possibly believe that. >> he said he looked like he is on drugs. he was on his cell phone and he said cop things. he looks like he has something in his pockets. >> he is reaching for his waist band. he is looking at me. he is checking me out. >> and he clearly thought he was a criminal based on race. this is the theme the defense went with at trial. we don't have to extrapolate. we don't h
trayvon martin riding a horse. if he had shown the most recent up to date picture of the person george zimmerman was swout the graininess of the 7-eleven photo, it was of him in a pink shirt hugging his mom on her birthday and riding a horse. those were the most recent pictures. he never showed those photos and neither did the prosecution. >> no other explanation for george zimmerman looking out the window and concluding he was an a-hole and f-'ing punk. what at the say? he was walking in...
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martin and his family in what they call the justice for trayvon. a hash tag for that as well. on pins and needles, but not more than these two families. >> we talk about that there are three possibilities. we went through second-degree murder. we wept through manslaughter. we should mention that the third one is he could be found not guilty which would mean, would it not, that they have accepted that he acted in self-defense. >> absolutely. just because they're working on manslaughter does not mean that they will find him guilty of manslaughter. they didn't have to consider the whole question of self-defense. the reasonableness of his conduct. so we don't really know but obviously, they're between manslaughter and acquittal. and the fact, i have the feeling though that a jury could say, this is a young man who wasn't doing anything and he gets profiled. he winds up dead. it doesn't matter how it happened. he shouldn't be dead. that's ultimate will i, could be the mantra of what a jury did if it come back guilty for manslaughter. >> if it comes back
martin and his family in what they call the justice for trayvon. a hash tag for that as well. on pins and needles, but not more than these two families. >> we talk about that there are three possibilities. we went through second-degree murder. we wept through manslaughter. we should mention that the third one is he could be found not guilty which would mean, would it not, that they have accepted that he acted in self-defense. >> absolutely. just because they're working on...
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martin, martin -- trayvon martin said you got me. so he could speak, and we also had to explain the reason. why trayvon martin's arms were underneath kind of clutching at his chest. he had to be able to move, so this would explain that. >> so this really -- danny, bolsters on the defense's case and verifies if you believe this witness, what george zimmerman's story is. >> of course, it's more than that. this is a terrific expert. a terrific pathologist who uses imagery to drive complex issues home. we're talking about some -- even though he says it's not a complex case and he's probably right from a forensic stand point, talking about the operations of the heart and how it affects the brain and how long you can live. the idea of reaching into your heart and yanking it out. even though none of us have seen that, except maybe a movie, we can imagine that and that drives it home. it under skorcores the importan of having an expert that knows what he's talking about. if they can't communicate it, they aren't worth when you pay. >> mark,
martin, martin -- trayvon martin said you got me. so he could speak, and we also had to explain the reason. why trayvon martin's arms were underneath kind of clutching at his chest. he had to be able to move, so this would explain that. >> so this really -- danny, bolsters on the defense's case and verifies if you believe this witness, what george zimmerman's story is. >> of course, it's more than that. this is a terrific expert. a terrific pathologist who uses imagery to drive...
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george zimmerman is found not guilty in the shooting death of trayvon martin. and only on cbs, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says iran is dangerously close to having a nuclear women son moving fast to develop intercontinental missile that could deliver it to the united states. it's all ahead on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. >> schieffer: good morning again george zimmerman is a man. he was found not guilty last night in the death of 17-year- old trayvon martin. he stood stoically in the courtroom last nile as the court clerk read the verdict. >> state of florida versus george zimmerman. verdict, we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. >> schieffer: cbs news correspondent has been covering this case over the last year he is in florida this morning with the latest, mark? >> good morning, bob. not guilty in the end jury of six women, five of them mothers decided that george zimmerman killed trayvon martin in self defense. his face was impassive. he shook hands wit
george zimmerman is found not guilty in the shooting death of trayvon martin. and only on cbs, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says iran is dangerously close to having a nuclear women son moving fast to develop intercontinental missile that could deliver it to the united states. it's all ahead on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. >> schieffer: good morning again george zimmerman...
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that's the way to honor trayvon martin. i don't know if you've had any chance, the statement was issued just minutes before you came on our air. if you've had a chance to talk to the family about it or if you have a personal reaction to it, i'd love to hear it. >> that was the first time i've heard the statement from president obama. i want to personally thank him, not just for calling on all communities to be peaceful and accept the jury's understanding as tracy and sybrina has. nobody has suffered a greater loss than tracy and sybrina and we share president obama's sentiments in that regard we don't want to see vigilante behavior that led to their son. i'm proud of the mouth of my president came a call for change in our nation. i think that's responding to and the reason i have the conviction to stand up this morning, continue to speak on behalf of my client, is because the millions of supporters out there black, white, brown, republican, democrat, muslim, christian, who stood behind tracy and sybrina and said that was ou
that's the way to honor trayvon martin. i don't know if you've had any chance, the statement was issued just minutes before you came on our air. if you've had a chance to talk to the family about it or if you have a personal reaction to it, i'd love to hear it. >> that was the first time i've heard the statement from president obama. i want to personally thank him, not just for calling on all communities to be peaceful and accept the jury's understanding as tracy and sybrina has. nobody...
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one, trayvon martin is dead. two, george zimmerman intentionally committed an act or acts that caused the death of trayvon martin. goenlgz cannot be guilty of manslaughter or committing a merely negligent act or if the killing was either justifiable or excusable homicide. >> technically could be a debate going on between manslaughter and second degree, could be a debate between manslaughter and acquittal. >> in the circuit court of the 18th judicial circuit in and for seminole county, florida, state of florida versus george zimmerman. verdict, we, the jury, find george zimmerman not guilty. >> completely shocked. utter shock. i cannot believe he was not found guilty. >> obviously we are ecstatic with the results. george zimmerman was never guilty of anything except protecting himself in self-defense. i'm glad the jury saw it that way. >> i am gratified by the jury's verdict as happy as i am for george zimmerman. i'm thrilled that this jury kept this tragedy from becoming a travesty. for that we are eternally grat
one, trayvon martin is dead. two, george zimmerman intentionally committed an act or acts that caused the death of trayvon martin. goenlgz cannot be guilty of manslaughter or committing a merely negligent act or if the killing was either justifiable or excusable homicide. >> technically could be a debate going on between manslaughter and second degree, could be a debate between manslaughter and acquittal. >> in the circuit court of the 18th judicial circuit in and for seminole...
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he is still calling trayvon martin a suspect. i think if you interviewed him today he would probably say the same thing because that is what he thought about this young man. >> and let's talk about race, race is an issue in this case. the five people he called about who were suspicious. before trayvon martin, five out of five were african american. trayvon martin was clearly called those names and texarkanaed because he is african american. i mean, is there really any doubt in anyone's mind about that? i think the prosecution has to address that squarely. because there was a witness today who talked about a burglary in the neighborhood, and it was a young african male, what is the point of that? if somebody is young and black walking in the neighborhood, we should call the cops? >> the witness came in, george zimmerman had a legitimate reason for finding trayvon martin suspicious because other young black men had targeted the neighborhood. >> because there was another young black burglar in the world. >> they're smart, when the p
he is still calling trayvon martin a suspect. i think if you interviewed him today he would probably say the same thing because that is what he thought about this young man. >> and let's talk about race, race is an issue in this case. the five people he called about who were suspicious. before trayvon martin, five out of five were african american. trayvon martin was clearly called those names and texarkanaed because he is african american. i mean, is there really any doubt in anyone's...
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martin. >> why does he get out of the car if he thinks trayvon martin is a threat to him? why? why? he's got a gun. he's got the equalizer. >> reporter: with zimmerman's mart tip's parents all in court for the first time -- >> [ bleep ] always get away. >> reporter: the prosecutor said zimmerman sized up martin after a call to police. >> i will submit to you that he uttered it under his breath, and that itself indicates ill will and hatred. >> reporter: and for the second straight day. >> he is saying armpit -- how does he get the gun out? >> reporter: the state's life-sized foam dummy was thrown into the mix. >> did you see where he's pointing to? did you see where he's grabbing, where he's got his firearm? >> reporter: and the prosecutor questioning the struggle with martin. >> this was never an easy case for the prosecution. it seemed to get more difficult every day of trial. while the closing argument seemed effective, it may not be enough for the crime of murder. >> reporter: earlier, sparks flew as both sides sparred over adding charges of lesser charges of manslaugh
martin. >> why does he get out of the car if he thinks trayvon martin is a threat to him? why? why? he's got a gun. he's got the equalizer. >> reporter: with zimmerman's mart tip's parents all in court for the first time -- >> [ bleep ] always get away. >> reporter: the prosecutor said zimmerman sized up martin after a call to police. >> i will submit to you that he uttered it under his breath, and that itself indicates ill will and hatred. >> reporter: and...
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trayvon! >> reporter: protesters called for justice for trayvon last night. some set fire to a dumpster in the middle of the street. it was around 10:00 when well over 100 people gathered outside city hall, then began to march through downtown, following the acquittal of george zimmerman in the shooting death of trayvon martin, the unarmed 17-year- old. police officers were called in to disperse the crowd. a number of the protesters wore masks as they broke store windows and spray-painted buildings. some of the graffiti called for violence against zimmerman. other graffiti called for violence against police officers. the neighborhood watch volunteer claimed he shot the unarmed teen in self-defense. but even some of the protesters upset about the acquittal were disappointed about the vandalism. >> it doesn't make sense to do this to our community. these people had nothing to do with what happened. they're destroying our own community. just don't do it. >> reporter: now, some business owners, we watched them last night as they stood behind their security gates
trayvon! >> reporter: protesters called for justice for trayvon last night. some set fire to a dumpster in the middle of the street. it was around 10:00 when well over 100 people gathered outside city hall, then began to march through downtown, following the acquittal of george zimmerman in the shooting death of trayvon martin, the unarmed 17-year- old. police officers were called in to disperse the crowd. a number of the protesters wore masks as they broke store windows and spray-painted...
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mom say it's trayvon's voice. they didn't do the family a favor by trying to appease them and the lack of prosecution. >> who do you think did a better job wrapping this up? >> i think the defense did because they have the law on their side. but i wish o'mara hit on more points. there are powerful points i think he did not make. prosecution argued emotion. you argue emotion when you don't have the law. the law is the law and they are going for an emotional verdict because the law's not on their side. >> judge alex ferrer, thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you. >>> coming up on the show, are your monthly bills getting more expensive by the day? up next, the four phone calls you can make today to dial down your debt. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004. vietnam in 1972. [ all ] fort benning, georgia in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve military members,
mom say it's trayvon's voice. they didn't do the family a favor by trying to appease them and the lack of prosecution. >> who do you think did a better job wrapping this up? >> i think the defense did because they have the law on their side. but i wish o'mara hit on more points. there are powerful points i think he did not make. prosecution argued emotion. you argue emotion when you don't have the law. the law is the law and they are going for an emotional verdict because the law's...
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trayvon on trial, the defense has made a decision to make trayvon martin relevant in terms of whether or not he was a good actor here or bad actor. the marijuana use is allowed. now text messages what do they say? we hear from the defense talk about how he was a fighter maybe he wanted a gun. trying to paint a picture pour them. is that dangerous for them? you could say yes. when they effective yesterday, we get better answers than i can by. we have mr. vinnie poll la ton host of d.c. d.c. and danny cevallos. vinnie, i start with you, you have di maio up there. he seems to confirm that george zimmerman's story makes sense. the prosecutors anybody nibbling on small points. how damage to get case? >> it was damaging. and the real reason was the contrast that the medical can'ter that the prosecution put on the stand. his demeanor, his confidence, the way he testified, so different from dr. di maio who is so seasoned so experienced and came across pretty well in court yesterday, unfortunately for the prosecution. >> all right. for both of you, i want you to weigh in on the cartoon. we sta
trayvon on trial, the defense has made a decision to make trayvon martin relevant in terms of whether or not he was a good actor here or bad actor. the marijuana use is allowed. now text messages what do they say? we hear from the defense talk about how he was a fighter maybe he wanted a gun. trying to paint a picture pour them. is that dangerous for them? you could say yes. when they effective yesterday, we get better answers than i can by. we have mr. vinnie poll la ton host of d.c. d.c. and...
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things trayvon martin had with him. what they were trying to do i heard an expert say this they're trying to convey to six women this was an innocent child. and these items link him to being a child. now he is dead. >> that's not lost on the attorneys here. all-female jury, some of them mothers playing on the angle. a dead teenager, perhaps going for more emotional appeal to the jury. all the legal analysts i listened to say the prosecution did not hit a home run on this. probably a better closing than presentation. you know of the case. you have to wonder, obviously the defense gets its turn, three hours. they have been sequestered, haven't talked to each other. the door closes in jury room in a couple days, the wonder the unleashing of the conservation what that will be like for those jurors big decision and community on edge. >> because they have been sequestered. you almost have to expect that plays a part in it. where they're going to, you don't want to think they are going to want to go home. and get it over with,
things trayvon martin had with him. what they were trying to do i heard an expert say this they're trying to convey to six women this was an innocent child. and these items link him to being a child. now he is dead. >> that's not lost on the attorneys here. all-female jury, some of them mothers playing on the angle. a dead teenager, perhaps going for more emotional appeal to the jury. all the legal analysts i listened to say the prosecution did not hit a home run on this. probably a...
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. >> reporter: defense attorneys for george zimmerman are attacking prosecution assertions that trayvon martin is the one yelling for help on that 911 call, the night he was shot and killed. susan mcginnis reports from the courthouse in sanford, florida. >> reporter: the defense called several friends of george zimmerman. each one took the stand. and each said they believed it's his voice on this 911 call, screaming for help. [ screaming ] >> so you think he's yelling help? >> yes. >> chose voice is this? >> george zimmerman's voice. >> definitely georgey's. >> no doubt in my mind that is george zimmerman. >> reporter: on friday, zimmerman's mother and uncle testified the screams were zimmerman's. the defense claims the neighborhood watchman shot trayvon martin in self-defense after the teen attacked him. but the family of martin believes it was his. the case >> reporter: the case could turn on the deadsly screams. >> reporter: during cross- examination, prosecutors pointed out that sondra osterman wrote a book about the case, with the proceeds going to george zimmerman. they spent thou
. >> reporter: defense attorneys for george zimmerman are attacking prosecution assertions that trayvon martin is the one yelling for help on that 911 call, the night he was shot and killed. susan mcginnis reports from the courthouse in sanford, florida. >> reporter: the defense called several friends of george zimmerman. each one took the stand. and each said they believed it's his voice on this 911 call, screaming for help. [ screaming ] >> so you think he's yelling help?...
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. >>> the father of trayvon martin takes the stand. we'll find out what he had to say after detectives testified that he initially told them he didn't think it was his son screaming on that 911 tape. >>> president obama revealing how he plans to make the government more efficient. >>> a swirl . >>> the wife of secretary of state john kerry is now in fair condition at a hospital in boston tonight. nbc news has just learned the family called an ambulance when theresa heinz-kerry had symptoms of a seizure but there has been no definitive diagnosis. heinz-kerry is 74 years old and is a breast cancer survivor. secretary john kerry remains by her side. >>> president obama tonight is pushing for less government red tape. he's directed his cabinet to come up with some strategies to make federal agencies more efficient. the president says a new online system is already getting payments out more quickly to small businesses but wants agencies to offer for online services to cut costs and to help small businesses compete for government contracts.
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trayvon martin is over him. pound and ground mma style assaulting him. he took out the gun which he had a legal right to carry, shot once in self-defense. it is a reasonable doubt case. >> i'll give you five seconds to answer. if you could pick either side to be on right now who would you rather be? side, even though you asked me to do the defense. >> john? >> prosecution on the lesser included charge of manslaughter. >> all right. great to get your perspectives. thank you. here's matt. >> thank you. >>> the health of country star randy travis has taken a turn for the worse overnight. nbc's charles hadlock is at the hospital in plano, texas. charles, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. according to his publicist the music legend suffered a stroke yesterday and underwent emergency surgery last night to relieve pressure on his brain. ♪ you may think that i'm talking foolish ♪ >> reporter: this morning randy travis is in critical condition in a texas hospital, fighting for his life. overnight the country star suffered a stroke, a serious com
trayvon martin is over him. pound and ground mma style assaulting him. he took out the gun which he had a legal right to carry, shot once in self-defense. it is a reasonable doubt case. >> i'll give you five seconds to answer. if you could pick either side to be on right now who would you rather be? side, even though you asked me to do the defense. >> john? >> prosecution on the lesser included charge of manslaughter. >> all right. great to get your perspectives. thank...
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. >> reporter: who said zimmerman had no other options but to shoot trayvon martin because he wasn't adept at fighting and felt his life was being threatened by the teen. zimmerman has pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder saying he fired in self-defense. >> i don't know what else he could have done based on his abilities because, not to be offensive to mr. zimmerman, he doesn't seem to have any. >> reporter: under cross-examinati cross-examination, prosecutor john guy used a foam dummy to question where zimmerman's gun was located when he pulled it. >> if this mannequin were carrying a firearm on their waist where would the gun be in relation to me? >> would be at your left inner thigh. >> right here, right? >> yes. >> reporter: later -- >> may i use your doll a moment? >> reporter: defense attorney mark o'mara got physical. george zimmerman, trayvon martin. >> reporter: refocusing on head and face injuries whether consistent with an attack. how about somebody resisting the injuries, the two lacerations could that have come from cement. somebody resisting me, pushing down like
. >> reporter: who said zimmerman had no other options but to shoot trayvon martin because he wasn't adept at fighting and felt his life was being threatened by the teen. zimmerman has pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder saying he fired in self-defense. >> i don't know what else he could have done based on his abilities because, not to be offensive to mr. zimmerman, he doesn't seem to have any. >> reporter: under cross-examinati cross-examination, prosecutor john guy...
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trayvon was a bad individual or anything like that. but the media painted him in a certain light by continually using a picture of when he was 12 years old and using george zimmerman's booking photo from an altercation in another case and showing a totally diverse view of the two individuals. that had to be intentional. you can't tell me the media didn't have any other access to other pictures pictures and trayvon's family didn't have pictures of him since he was 12 years old? there were pictures from his twitter that were circulated, but we saw the same image painted. the media benefits from ratings. we see it over and over again where the stories are slanted a certain way because it is explosive and the ratings shoot through the roof. there are networks that make a living off high-profile cases like this. as long as they report it fairly that is great. the public should know both sides and should know a fairview of it. it is when it is given a particular slant like this they don't do us a favor. there is an image of racism when anybo
trayvon was a bad individual or anything like that. but the media painted him in a certain light by continually using a picture of when he was 12 years old and using george zimmerman's booking photo from an altercation in another case and showing a totally diverse view of the two individuals. that had to be intentional. you can't tell me the media didn't have any other access to other pictures pictures and trayvon's family didn't have pictures of him since he was 12 years old? there were...
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i will love you for trayvon. she even called upon people who were upset with the verdict, she called upon them to remain calm and nonviolent. how is the family doing today? >> well, i think that tweet describes her state of mind and the state of mind of the father. they want people to remain peaceful. we don't want trayvon martin's legacy to be even with a garbage can kicked off. people who may have an issue with our law and how we handle these type of situations should do things within our civic structure to change that. go become legislators, lawyers, judges, make the laws that much better. get into law enforcement, get into forensic pathology. there's so many things you can do to help our system be a little better next time it happens so maybe we won't have another trayvon. >> looking back, do you wish the state had charged zimmerman with manslaughter rather than second degree murder? >> let me say this, as a lawyer, i don't monday morning quarterback, i don't second-guess any lawyer. your decision is your dec
i will love you for trayvon. she even called upon people who were upset with the verdict, she called upon them to remain calm and nonviolent. how is the family doing today? >> well, i think that tweet describes her state of mind and the state of mind of the father. they want people to remain peaceful. we don't want trayvon martin's legacy to be even with a garbage can kicked off. people who may have an issue with our law and how we handle these type of situations should do things within...
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he was profiling trayvon martin. i believe that all of those things are true, and i wouldn't be surprised if the jury thought that was true, but that's really not the issue. the issue is was this case proved beyond a reasonable doubt when focussing on the evidence, and i don't think that it's been. >> i agree. >> let me ask you about the jury itself. we've got six women, five are mothers. to me, when sybrina fulton gave her evidence, that was incredibly powerful and seen her walking out of the courtroom unable to see or hear certain parts of testimony involving her son. that has to hit home with mothers. that has to at some stage hit home. >> as you know, i was part of the o.j. simpson defense team and i sat in front of the simpson family and the goldman family and they were visibly moved every single solitary day. and everyone in that courtroom felt for them but at the end of the day you have to put that aside if you follow the the judge's instructions and most jurors do and focus on the evidence. you feel for the p
he was profiling trayvon martin. i believe that all of those things are true, and i wouldn't be surprised if the jury thought that was true, but that's really not the issue. the issue is was this case proved beyond a reasonable doubt when focussing on the evidence, and i don't think that it's been. >> i agree. >> let me ask you about the jury itself. we've got six women, five are mothers. to me, when sybrina fulton gave her evidence, that was incredibly powerful and seen her walking...
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martin, and trayvon ultimately ending up dead. >> right. that's her third time on the stand for those keeping track at home. she had to talk about that very painful moment when the 911 call is played for the father of trayvon martin and he said it did not sound like his son. and the prosecution brought out on cross-examination that this was a tremendously emotional moment. even this police detective felt emotional. she said she was choked up because she's a mother herself and she put herself in his shoes and imagined how he must feel. the defense attorney, i thought, very skillfully tried to bring it back to the point that he called her for, which was even though it was a very sad, emotional moment, you have no doubt that he said that was not his son's voice. she had to acknowledge that's what was said at that time. >> john, you were saying if tracy martin gets on the stand and goes into saying he does believe it's trayvon now, you say that really delineates any credibility that he has. >> not as a dad, of course. but certainly on his testi
martin, and trayvon ultimately ending up dead. >> right. that's her third time on the stand for those keeping track at home. she had to talk about that very painful moment when the 911 call is played for the father of trayvon martin and he said it did not sound like his son. and the prosecution brought out on cross-examination that this was a tremendously emotional moment. even this police detective felt emotional. she said she was choked up because she's a mother herself and she put...
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the focus in court again was today this dramatic 911 call from the night trayvon martin died. investigators were called back to the witness stand to share with jurors the response trayvon martin's father had the first time he was asked who it was screaming for help in the background of that call? >> okay. and mr. martin's response? >> that it was not his son. >> i think you earlier said he put his head down or something? >> yes. he was crying. he was sad. he had his head down and wiping his face with tissues. >> tracey martin wiped away tears from today's testimony. >> i started screaming as louds i could help. >> george zimmerman said it's his voice the night he shot and killed martin. he's pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder saying he acted in self-defense. recording was at the center of the presentation by the defense. friends were asked the same question about the same audio recording. and gave the same answer. >> yes, definitely that's georgy. >> i thought it was george. >> "the voice" screaming on the tape is george zimmerman. >> during cross-examination the state
the focus in court again was today this dramatic 911 call from the night trayvon martin died. investigators were called back to the witness stand to share with jurors the response trayvon martin's father had the first time he was asked who it was screaming for help in the background of that call? >> okay. and mr. martin's response? >> that it was not his son. >> i think you earlier said he put his head down or something? >> yes. he was crying. he was sad. he had his head...
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that's the verdict from the george zimmerman/trayvon martin case. zimmerman showed little reaction in court after hearing the court. the cleanup begins in france after a train derailed friday killing six people. investigators have ruled out human error. they're now looking at a detached piece of metal on the tracks. >>> the freak is back. san francisco giants pitcher tim lincecum threw out his first career no-hitter last night against the san diego padres. he threw a career high 148 pitches last night. giants beat the padres 9-0. >>> controversy is brewing in tucson, arizona, where two schools will take grant money from a group with ties to the muslim brotherhood. joining us now for fair and balanced debate are leslie marshall and chris plant. welcome to you both. >> hey, shannon. >> good morning. >> shannon: chris, this money will be used in classrooms where they're teaching arabic. isn't that a skill we'd like american kids to develop. what's wrong with that? >> sure, i'm sure we're taking money from the chinese government where they're teaching c
that's the verdict from the george zimmerman/trayvon martin case. zimmerman showed little reaction in court after hearing the court. the cleanup begins in france after a train derailed friday killing six people. investigators have ruled out human error. they're now looking at a detached piece of metal on the tracks. >>> the freak is back. san francisco giants pitcher tim lincecum threw out his first career no-hitter last night against the san diego padres. he threw a career high 148...
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he says he shot trayvon martin in self-defense. savannah. >> all right. kerry sanders in sanford, florida, thank you. >>> savannah, thanks, more on the crash. the tragic crash of asiana flight 214. the pilot was making his first landing in a 777 at san francisco's airport. this morning we're able to give you a better idea of what the crew was facing in the cockpit. >> as investigators sift through the wreckage of flight 214 they're also trying to get inside the cockpit and the minds of the crew at the time of the crash. >> we're looking at what they were doing and we want to understand why they were doing it. >> as the approach run way 28-l on saturday the pilot had a view similar to this one. >> you're flying manually now. >> all right. >> a view i got to experience firsthand in a 777 flight simulator in 2007. like my simulated landing, the descent was routine and uneventful until something went wrong in the final seconds. >> too low, too slow. that's usually a disasterous outcome. >> he is a former 777 pilot who made hundreds of landings at the san fran
he says he shot trayvon martin in self-defense. savannah. >> all right. kerry sanders in sanford, florida, thank you. >>> savannah, thanks, more on the crash. the tragic crash of asiana flight 214. the pilot was making his first landing in a 777 at san francisco's airport. this morning we're able to give you a better idea of what the crew was facing in the cockpit. >> as investigators sift through the wreckage of flight 214 they're also trying to get inside the cockpit and...
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the death of an unarmed teenager, trayvon martin. the question of george zimmerman and whether he acted in self-defense, clearly the conclusion that a jury of six women came to tonight. george zimmerman, not guilty. it was a case that was as much about larger issues. it was about guns in this country. it was about race in this country. the reverend al sharpton joins us now. your reaction. >> well, i think that this is an atrocity. i think that it is probably one of the worst situations that i've seen. what this jury has done is establish a precedent that when you are young and fit a certain profile, you can be committing no crime. just bringing some skittles and iced tea home to your brother and be killed and someone can claim self-defense. having been exposed with all kinds of lies. all kinds of inconsistencies. we had, even at trial when he is exposed over and over again as a liar, he is acquitted. this is a sad day in the country. i think that we clearly must move on to the next step in terms of the federal government and in terms
the death of an unarmed teenager, trayvon martin. the question of george zimmerman and whether he acted in self-defense, clearly the conclusion that a jury of six women came to tonight. george zimmerman, not guilty. it was a case that was as much about larger issues. it was about guns in this country. it was about race in this country. the reverend al sharpton joins us now. your reaction. >> well, i think that this is an atrocity. i think that it is probably one of the worst situations...
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trayvon martin's blood on his. forever. >> trayvon martin was killed february 26th, 2012, one year, four months and 16 days later. a jury in a court of law is deciding whether george zimmerman should be criminally responsible for his death. every second it goes by brings us closer to that verdict. with me now is my all-star legal panel, joy reid, managing editor the grio.com, former prosecutor faith jenkins, defense attorney ken padowitz, and former prosecutor marcia clark. she is author of "killer ambition." thank you all for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> great to be here. >> thank you. >> marcia, how did the defense and prosecution do today in their final arguments to the jury? >> reverend, i thought they both did a really good job, very strong. and, you know, it's interesting the different styles that they have to adopt. and wisely. so you know, the defense approaches this from a very calm, very reasoned, let's all calm down now and think rationally, you know, and try to step away from all the sympa
trayvon martin's blood on his. forever. >> trayvon martin was killed february 26th, 2012, one year, four months and 16 days later. a jury in a court of law is deciding whether george zimmerman should be criminally responsible for his death. every second it goes by brings us closer to that verdict. with me now is my all-star legal panel, joy reid, managing editor the grio.com, former prosecutor faith jenkins, defense attorney ken padowitz, and former prosecutor marcia clark. she is author...
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that's trayvon martin's cell phone. they were discussing the issue of thc found in trayvon martin's blood, and they were also discussing the issue of that animation that was so hard fought over and ruled against ultimately, but before all of that, and all of the fighting until 10:00 at night, those lawyers started getting angry and perhaps the angriest of them all was the judge. look how it played out. >> i would offer him the opportunity right now to apologize to me for suggesting that i stood by silently with information that i did not have. >> i am not getting into this. court is in recess. i will give my ruling in the morning. i will see you at 8:00 in the morning. >> your honor, may i -- >> court is in recess. >> it is 10:00 at night. >> 9:56. court is in recess. thank you very much with all due respect we'll see you at 8 in the morning. >> i am not followingly able to go at this pace longer. it is 10:00 at night. we started this morning. we have had full days every day. weekends, depositions at night. >> it is jus
that's trayvon martin's cell phone. they were discussing the issue of thc found in trayvon martin's blood, and they were also discussing the issue of that animation that was so hard fought over and ruled against ultimately, but before all of that, and all of the fighting until 10:00 at night, those lawyers started getting angry and perhaps the angriest of them all was the judge. look how it played out. >> i would offer him the opportunity right now to apologize to me for suggesting that i...
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the woman on the phone with trayvon, when of course, he was approaching trayvon -- approaching zimmerman. and that was obviously not a good moment for the prosecution. but even past that, i mean, you can't supplant and philip, can you chime. in you can't supplant emotion with where the facts are supposed to be in the case to prove that element of ill will or anger or visceral hatred of trayvon martin or a black person in order to prove that second degree murder charge. might be different for the manslaughter. >> i would absolutely agree with you. i think they painted themselves in the corner from the beginning by locking themselves into the version that they thought was going to come out. and quite frankly, that version did not come out. that being said at the end of the day, you still have a 17-year-old child. you still have an individual who is dead through no fault of his own. i think that if -- if the state could show enough emotion that the jury puts a lot of weight with that they may do a split the baby and say we don't want to come back with a murder 2 conviction because they didn
the woman on the phone with trayvon, when of course, he was approaching trayvon -- approaching zimmerman. and that was obviously not a good moment for the prosecution. but even past that, i mean, you can't supplant and philip, can you chime. in you can't supplant emotion with where the facts are supposed to be in the case to prove that element of ill will or anger or visceral hatred of trayvon martin or a black person in order to prove that second degree murder charge. might be different for...
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cleared of all charges in the shooting death of trayvon martin. martin's family deals with that verdict that was rendered last night. good morning, everyone. welcome to "america's news headquarters" on this sunday morning. >> i'm marcella neville. a jury of six women reaching their verdict yesterday after 16 hours of deliberations. here's the verdict as it was read. >> in the circuit court of the 18th judicial district in and for seminole county florida, state of florida versus george zimmerman, verdict, we the jury find george zimmerman, not guilty. >> emotions running high outside the courthouse as people on both sides of this case consider the outcome of this historic case. jonathan sary is joining us live from sanford, florida. jonathan, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. there were reports overnight of protester smashing windows and setting small fires in oakland, california, but here in sanford, florida, people on both sides of this emotionally charged issue heeded the calls to remain calm. in advance of the verdict some prominent civi
cleared of all charges in the shooting death of trayvon martin. martin's family deals with that verdict that was rendered last night. good morning, everyone. welcome to "america's news headquarters" on this sunday morning. >> i'm marcella neville. a jury of six women reaching their verdict yesterday after 16 hours of deliberations. here's the verdict as it was read. >> in the circuit court of the 18th judicial district in and for seminole county florida, state of florida...
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if you don't believe that trayvon martin saw the gun, if you don't believe that trayvon martin can get to the gun, that calls into question the entire self-defense argument that they're making to the jury. and keep this in mind. the prosecution, once the defense raises self-defense, the prosecution has to prove under florida law that beyond a reasonable doubt, there was no self-defense. so the burden shifts to the prosecution once self-defense is raised by the defense. but make no mistake about it. the law is like mud. this jury is going to hear this law from this court, and they're going to be like every jury. they're going to have a hard time going through it, because lawyers can't even agree what that gobbledygook means when the judge reads that law to that jury. >> faith, having said that, and about seeing the gun or grabbing for the gun, let me show you some of what john guy laid out in terms of the inconsistencies and tell me whether that addresses some of that from the prosecution's standpoint. >> sean knoffke told me to get an address. that didn't happen. listen to the tapes. l
if you don't believe that trayvon martin saw the gun, if you don't believe that trayvon martin can get to the gun, that calls into question the entire self-defense argument that they're making to the jury. and keep this in mind. the prosecution, once the defense raises self-defense, the prosecution has to prove under florida law that beyond a reasonable doubt, there was no self-defense. so the burden shifts to the prosecution once self-defense is raised by the defense. but make no mistake about...
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this has been tough all along for everybody involved, and now for trayvon martin' trayvon mart had pushed so hard for authorities to get charges in this case. you mentioned justice has been done. a jury has made this decision. >> this is important for everybody no matter what a verdict is, harris, that both sides agreed this jury was the jury to decide it. >> yes. >> they both had a chance to ask all the jurors, and both sides agreed that these six people, these 6 women could be fair. they could weigh the evidence. both sides had equal opportunity. this is the way our system, you know, we don't have mob justice. this is the way it's supposed to work whether you like the verdict or not. you know, i just hope that there is calm among the community, those who may not like the verdict. in fact, you know, maybe those who don't like the verdict may not have even seen the trial, but you know, the lesson here is that we should all respect it, and this is what we with said before the verdict. we should be saying this afterwards, but very, very difficult night tonight for the family, and even very
this has been tough all along for everybody involved, and now for trayvon martin' trayvon mart had pushed so hard for authorities to get charges in this case. you mentioned justice has been done. a jury has made this decision. >> this is important for everybody no matter what a verdict is, harris, that both sides agreed this jury was the jury to decide it. >> yes. >> they both had a chance to ask all the jurors, and both sides agreed that these six people, these 6 women could...
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trayvon martin was unarmed. let's bring in msnbc legal analyst lisa bloom and criminal defense attorney john burress. let's start with the moment we just witnessed, which was extraordinary. i was watching from afar. you were here as well. i didn't know if george zimmerman was about to be the next witness on stand. what happened there? smpb >> apparently he didn't know if he was going to be the next witness or not. usually what happens is at the close of the defense case, after the last defense witness, a decision is made to testify or not. if the decision is not to testify, the attorney notifies the judge and then the defendant gets questioned outside the presence of the jury but on the record to preserve the record so later on they can't say, oh, my attorney tricked me, i didn't know i have the right. they just do through a series of questions. you understand tyou have the right to testify. yes. you've had a chance to speak to your attorney. yes. that's what we all that uought was going to be. zimmerman looked
trayvon martin was unarmed. let's bring in msnbc legal analyst lisa bloom and criminal defense attorney john burress. let's start with the moment we just witnessed, which was extraordinary. i was watching from afar. you were here as well. i didn't know if george zimmerman was about to be the next witness on stand. what happened there? smpb >> apparently he didn't know if he was going to be the next witness or not. usually what happens is at the close of the defense case, after the last...
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trayvon martin the way he was. trayvon martin that night, i had to show you, he had the hoodie on. we talked about the hoodie. this is from the picture we showed you. it's not in evidence. don't even have to believe it's accurate. just take a look at it. remember how much taller i was than andrew gaugh, and he testified that he was 5'10". and then there's george zimmerman and how tall he is. take a look at him compared to my height. could you stand up for a moment, please? relative physical abilities. that's what you have to look at to determine in a self-defense case. so you look at this guy that night, don't look achad the today to how much weight he gained. it doesn't matter, what matters is how he was that day and how trayvon martin looked that day. in evidence, just so you get an indication, november 15th, 2011, about two months, three months before trayvon martin passed away. that's what he looked like. a young kid, nice kid actually, you look at the picture, not bad. the problem is when we show you autopsy photographs, there are two things to show you about autopsy photograp
trayvon martin the way he was. trayvon martin that night, i had to show you, he had the hoodie on. we talked about the hoodie. this is from the picture we showed you. it's not in evidence. don't even have to believe it's accurate. just take a look at it. remember how much taller i was than andrew gaugh, and he testified that he was 5'10". and then there's george zimmerman and how tall he is. take a look at him compared to my height. could you stand up for a moment, please? relative...
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following -- if george zimmerman is following trayvon martin, he's guilty of something. that's not part of the law. the truth is it isn't part of the law and the jury needs to understand it according to this defense attorney. >> the jury told by the court it's not illegal to follow somebody especially if you're doing it to tell the police where this person went. >> response? >> as the state objects, we would note it's the first time i ever heard unnamed media commentary cited as legal authority to the courted. i would submit while following itself might not be illegal that following is one factor the jury is free to consider in this case. it is something that evinces the defendant's state of mind. it doesn't have to be illegal and i don't think the instruction -- we want to talk about what confuses the jury. when the court starts telling them things like it is not illegal to walk across the street. it is not illegal to walk home from 7-eleven in the rainwearing a hoodie. it is not illegal to be armed with a pack of skittles. that tennes to confuse the jury. it is also in
following -- if george zimmerman is following trayvon martin, he's guilty of something. that's not part of the law. the truth is it isn't part of the law and the jury needs to understand it according to this defense attorney. >> the jury told by the court it's not illegal to follow somebody especially if you're doing it to tell the police where this person went. >> response? >> as the state objects, we would note it's the first time i ever heard unnamed media commentary cited...
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>> trayvon benjamin martin. >> georgy. >> my brother. >> trayvon's? >> yes. >> there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that is george zimmerman. >> after consulting with counsel, not to testify, your honor. >> if this person, this mannequin, were carrying a firearm on their waist, where would the gun be right now in relation to me? >> would be at your left inner thigh. >> were the injuries on mr. zimmerman's back of his head consistent with someone doing this? on cement. >> i don't think so. >> why does this defendant get out of the car if he thinks that trayvon martin is a threat to him? why? because he's got a gun! equalizer. he's going to take care of it. he's a want to be cop. >> the person that decided that this is going to continue, said it was going to be violent was the guy that didn't go home when he had the chance to. i almost wish that the verdict had guilty, not guilty and completely innocent because i would ask you to check for that one. you have to check the not guilty. check the innocent then, too. >> trayvon martin may not have the defe
>> trayvon benjamin martin. >> georgy. >> my brother. >> trayvon's? >> yes. >> there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that is george zimmerman. >> after consulting with counsel, not to testify, your honor. >> if this person, this mannequin, were carrying a firearm on their waist, where would the gun be right now in relation to me? >> would be at your left inner thigh. >> were the injuries on mr. zimmerman's back of his head consistent...
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his conduct is why trayvon martin is dead. i think the prosecution made that. >> you don't think that the prosecutions argued effectively with second-degree? >> i don't think they did. i think it is manslaughter. manslaughter is you do something and reckless and you don't mean to kill them but they die. i think it is manslaughter. i think the jury has to have common sense which the prosecutions is saying. if not for zimmerman, martin wont be dead. the by had a bag of skittles and a can of iced tea. he is a child many times and skittles and iced tea and none of that matters, only thing matters is what is in george zimmerman's head at the time he used the deadly force and if they couldn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was not in fear and he was going to get hurt seriously, that's it, it is over. they didn't prove second-degree and they wont have charged if all of the sievele rights people didn't come out and manipulate the entire system. it should not have been charged and one question no one mentions. if everyone is d
his conduct is why trayvon martin is dead. i think the prosecution made that. >> you don't think that the prosecutions argued effectively with second-degree? >> i don't think they did. i think it is manslaughter. manslaughter is you do something and reckless and you don't mean to kill them but they die. i think it is manslaughter. i think the jury has to have common sense which the prosecutions is saying. if not for zimmerman, martin wont be dead. the by had a bag of skittles and a...
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you heard trayvon martin's mother, trayvon martin's brother insists that was the voice of trayvon martin. this is significant in as much as if, in fact, it was george zimmerman who believed he was in danger and he then shot and killed trayvon martin. would obviously have an impact on this decision by the jury. let's see who this witness is. let's get some more of this live coverage here on cnn. >> [ witness sworn ] . >> you may be seated. >> thank you. >> good morning, ma'am, how are you? >> good morning. >> state your name, please. >> lee anne benjamin. >> and are you married? >> yes, i am. >> to whom? >> john donnelly. >> okay. do you know george zimmerman? >> yes, i do. >> and if you would, tell the jury how long you have known him. >> i think i met george nor the first time either at the end of 2002 or early in 2003. >> and if you would briefly tell the jury the circumstances of. i own and operate a local real estate business and george was working for the local evens company and i used to refer my commerce over to him, so i got to know him that way. >> would a characterization as a
you heard trayvon martin's mother, trayvon martin's brother insists that was the voice of trayvon martin. this is significant in as much as if, in fact, it was george zimmerman who believed he was in danger and he then shot and killed trayvon martin. would obviously have an impact on this decision by the jury. let's see who this witness is. let's get some more of this live coverage here on cnn. >> [ witness sworn ] . >> you may be seated. >> thank you. >> good morning,...
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trayvon martin. you have to use evidence, circumstantial evidence from the outside and try to figure it out. if someone's in fear, you run home. that was about 30 yards. that's where you run when you're in fear. if you stick around to take on someone, you stick around. >> that's more an assumption. i don't think he had -- >> well -- you think -- you disagree with that? >> that doesn't mean that trayvon had to run home. >> i'm not saying that but if you're looking for reasonable inferences, that's a for likely reasonable inference. >> it's four minutes but he didn't go home. i mean, the inference is what he was doing. the thing is the state, all they have is the angel/demon good versus evil, light/dark dichotomy and i think the defense is doing a great job of saying you don't know anything about either of these people. i'm just saying there's four minutes that he could have been laying in wait the same way you think that he was hunting. there's no evidence of evilness on either side and some point onl
trayvon martin. you have to use evidence, circumstantial evidence from the outside and try to figure it out. if someone's in fear, you run home. that was about 30 yards. that's where you run when you're in fear. if you stick around to take on someone, you stick around. >> that's more an assumption. i don't think he had -- >> well -- you think -- you disagree with that? >> that doesn't mean that trayvon had to run home. >> i'm not saying that but if you're looking for...
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you know, you -- we've heard from trayvon's mother, trayvon's father, trayvon's brother. they all have a connection to him, to trayvon martin, but other people who did 911 calls, who said they thought it was the guy on top, meaning the one screaming for help was the one on bottom was george zimmerman, but you also had some people who testified saying that the person they heard screaming sounded like a child, sounded like a young boy. >> okay, well, we're joined live now from sanford, craig melvin is there. and craig, can you tell us exactly what's going on inside the courtroom right now at this moment? >> reporter: right now, martin, judge nelson is considering hearing on john donnelly. he's the guy who's married to lee ann benjamin. they both testified to the fact that they gave money to the website to help george zimmerman pay for his legal bills. he testified that it helped him, took food over to the house. they also testified that because of his experience in vietnam, he was able to better decipher screaming. he said that he could recognize that it was george zimmerma
you know, you -- we've heard from trayvon's mother, trayvon's father, trayvon's brother. they all have a connection to him, to trayvon martin, but other people who did 911 calls, who said they thought it was the guy on top, meaning the one screaming for help was the one on bottom was george zimmerman, but you also had some people who testified saying that the person they heard screaming sounded like a child, sounded like a young boy. >> okay, well, we're joined live now from sanford,...
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george zimmerman brought out the gun because trayvon martin had gone for it as opposed to trayvon martin was screaming or retreating or running. have a listen to how that went down between this prosecutor and this witness. >> if trayvon martin or anyone would have been in that situation and would have been aware of the defendant's gun either seen it or felt it, would you expect them to scream for help? >> you're asking me if somebody -- if i'm beating the crap out you have and i know you have a gun would i expect me to be screaming for help? >> would that be unusual? >> you said if i'm trayvon martin in that situation and we take it to the place that we've gone with the physical evidence where i'm the aggressor, i'm on you and i see you have a gun, my first instinct is not to scream for help, if i'm the one being the aggressor is to go for the weapon to help me continue my aggression. >> my question was it would be unusual for a person who saw someone that they were in combat with with a firearm, would it be unusual for that person to yell for help in your experience? >> i want to make s
george zimmerman brought out the gun because trayvon martin had gone for it as opposed to trayvon martin was screaming or retreating or running. have a listen to how that went down between this prosecutor and this witness. >> if trayvon martin or anyone would have been in that situation and would have been aware of the defendant's gun either seen it or felt it, would you expect them to scream for help? >> you're asking me if somebody -- if i'm beating the crap out you have and i...
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you didn't know anything about trayvon martin. you knew he played football in middle school, that was about it. what else did you know about him? height and weight and that he was physically healthy, that's what the autopsy report said. that's it. we don't know anything about his fighting ability. if he had any at all. if he would be a one on a scale of one to ten or a ten or in between. a lot of assumptions made about him, 17 years old, just turned 17. we don't know anything about it. the witness started to say that he knew some things from the media, you know, that's obviously a big red flag. he got cut off on that and no further discussion. >> we do know, i believe trayvon martin was 158 pounds at point at which he was killed, right? >> right, 5'11". >> conceding how much in weight to mr. zimmerman? >> i've heard different things about zimmerman's weight at the time. he's put on a -- i think about 100 pounds since then. but we've seen pictures of him. he was obviously fairly physically fit at the time. and the gym owner even sa
you didn't know anything about trayvon martin. you knew he played football in middle school, that was about it. what else did you know about him? height and weight and that he was physically healthy, that's what the autopsy report said. that's it. we don't know anything about his fighting ability. if he had any at all. if he would be a one on a scale of one to ten or a ten or in between. a lot of assumptions made about him, 17 years old, just turned 17. we don't know anything about it. the...